Last Update: 02/09/2010 - 10:42am EST

Miley Cyrus is scalping her own tickets

By Crystal Astrachan

Miley Cyrus will sell VIP ticket packages to her show on the site ILoveAllAccess.com, which is offering “[e]xclusive access for Miley Cyrus fan club members only, with special password, until June 9 17:00 BST,” according to their Web site. ILoveAllAccess.com is owned and operated by Ticketmaster's Front Line Management, which is Cyrus's management company.

VIP tickets, which will cost $295 each, are not yet available for sale. Instead, they state that tickets are “coming soon.” Myley Cyrus tickets officially go on sale on Monday at Ticketmaster. ILoveAccess.com states that the ticket package includes a seat in the first 25 rows, access to the pre-show party, a gift bag, a souvenir, and parking. (See the accompanying screenshot from ILoveAccess.com below).

Don Vaccaro, president and CEO of TicketNetwork, told TicketNews that “this appears to be nothing more than a bait and switch by Miley Cyrus.” Vaccaro added that “her camp doesn’t disclose to her teenage fans that she is withholding her best tickets to scalp them at almost $300 each, leaving her true fans without access to some of the best tickets.”

According to an article published today in the Wall Street Journal, “Ticketmaster also plans to offer prime seats as part of special premium packages that include other perks. That will allow Ms. Cyrus and the company to capture some of the added revenue that normally flows to scalpers.”

In an effort to discourage ticket brokers from reselling Miley Cyrus tickets, last week Miley Cyrus announced that her tour’s ticketing will be completely paperless. The official onsale begins on Monday on Ticketmaster and tickets will cost $39.50 to $79.50, plus fees.

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Miley sucks

The best thing about Miley will be when she turns 18 and we hopefully find pictures of her naked ass online with cum all over her face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
The person who wrote this article is an idiot!

This is supposed to be Ticket News? An industry expert? This is the most irresponsible journalism I've seen. Scalping is when you re-sell a ticket. It is NOT when you create a value added ticket. So you're telling me when people pay $1,000 face to sit in the front row at Yankee Stadium where they get catered services, nice arm chairs and such that the Yankees are scalping?

Cmon, we're secondary market ticketers, not IDIOTS. Let's be more responsible here. We know the parent company of ticket news is run by a secondary ticket marketing company that would not benefit from successful paperless ticketing, but let's be more objective in what we write.

This kind of reporting hurts our industry more than helps it. And the person who let this article be titled as such should also be reprimanded.

It is the proper title.

Yes, the $1000 face value seats at Yankee Stadium is the Yankees scalping their tickets.

Steroids

think of Miley as (Jose Conseco) she is the steroid rat who is trying to expose all the users (fans/purchasers/etc) The Tickets offices i.e. Ticketmaster,Stubhub, Brokers...etc are the chemists who make the steroids (tickets) and distribute them to the buyers (brokers/your kids/parents/etc.)

When Miley the Chemist decides she wants to dictate the sale of her steroids (tickets) thru her pusher i.e. re-sellers,ticketmaster,Stub Hub etc but doesnt want anyone to make money off her (taking away your constitutional right) The Brokers,(all) create HGH or something else that will go undetected and one up the system....always offering an answer to a problem!!!!

Paperless tickets may slow down the re-sale of tickets from some of the small and dumber fish in the re-seller market, but it will only make the Big fish stronger as they look for additional ways to push the drug otherwise known as DEMAND!!!

Miley enjoy your success while you have it, because your father is the perfect example of the well drying up...lucky he had you to exploit!!!

You'll be begging scapler to sell your tickets in the not so disdtant future!!

P.S. your still not sold out at my venue!!

SO WHAT!

This is the bottom line. When a band member, band, promoter, etc. wants to sell the first 10 rows for $10000.00 SO WHAT It's there band, there knowledge and talent. Its There Gig! When you buy a ticket and resell it that's fine. Now that the bands want there money you put up "cry boards" calling it not fair ect.. So WHAT! Its there band

The problem is the lie.

"We are having a paperless tour for the fans, because it upset us so much last time that the brokers bought all the good seats."

That isn't true at all.

The reality is, "Well, this time there won't be any good seats, because we are holding them back and selling them ourselves"

That's Fine But ....

I think that is fine for a band to do, I really do, and I'm a ticket broker. They are taking the risk that they can't sell those tickets at that price (look at the Yankees premium seating as a good example) whereas brokers would buy those seats up quickly and sell them at market prices. So the choice they have is do whether they want a guaranteed price for those tickets for whatever they are selling them for at face, or do they try to squeeze out every last penny that the market is willing to bear. As every ticket broker on the planet knows, it is not such an easy equation to solve. Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong. But in essence, I do think that entertainers and promototers should have the ability to do this, as long as they understand the risk involved.

I think the reason us brokers have a problem with Miley Cyrus holding back these premium seats and selling them at a premium prices is not a question of should she should have the ability to do so, but rather that the whole paperless ticket scheme was supposed to be about getting the tickets in the hands of "real" fans. As we all know by now, it has nothing to do with that. It is about maximizing profit and control. Maybe the headline is going a bit overboard, but the point is that it is it a little disingenuous to say we are doing this paperless thing to get tickets to fans and prevent sales from scalers, but then at the same time hold back the best seats and charge a premium for them. All in a monopoly environment, with no competition in the secondary market, because you have essentially prevented a secondary maket from occurring. No competition means higher prices.

The lie is that the parent

The lie is that the parent company, TM which owns ILAA, is letting ILAA sell these seats direct to brokers to resell and split the profits above the "face value" vip price because they dont know how to sell them. Search for the truth it is easy to find

The lie is that the parent

The lie is that the parent company, TM which owns ILAA, is letting ILAA sell these seats direct to brokers to resell and split the profits above the "face value" vip price because they dont know how to sell them. Search for the truth it is easy to find

control

Its only about control ticketmaster is treating our states like each one is a country controling people who live in one state and want to buy tickets for a show in another state because they are planning a trip and want to see a band they like. sorry but your not allowed to do that, that was the rule they set with green day and the nba conference finals. So a local ticket broker is your best option, another example of bad for fans great for brokers. I hope ticketmaster has good intentions for doing this like putting stubhub out of business but if not stubhubs so dumb they will put them self out. Stubhub made a comment to ticketmaster that they had there chance and missed out. This was a while ago but when i heard this i knew hard times where comming for brokers. ticketmaster didnt missout they just stayed out of the way but know there comming for the money that stubhub said they missed out on and a little $20 million law suit isnt ganna slow them down lol.

Shame on you Crystal Astrachan!

...or whoever your editor is. That headline is pure mudslinging, sensationalist crap... you need to turn in your press badge and learn a thing or two about ticketing and journalism before being able to write that. The article sounds like an adertisement and explanation for what a value-added package is and has been for years. It's the headline that's misleading, shame on you.

I think the blame goes on

I think the blame goes on TicketNetwork CEO Don Vaccaro, who uses this blog to push his own agenda.

This article was clearly over the line.

She works for Don V, Metro,

She works for Don V, Metro, Ticket Tech, whatever you want to call their company these days.

Face it, the age of ticket brokers is over. Time to get real jobs.

As much as I hate Ticketmaster...

This isn't scalping... whoever wrote the article or, more importantly, its headline was going for a misguided gut punch cheap shot. Artists have been selling VIP packages with extras through their fan clubs for decades. It's not like these are just the tickets that are being sold for more... there's the party, the parking, and the souvenirs. Hundredes of artists have done this before and a lot of fans find great value in these deals even though, duh, the artist makes money off them... what a concept!!! If it were all for the love then they'd be busking on the local street corner, c'mon, let's grow up, people, and not fall for mudslinging journalims. At least she's doing a noble thing by effectively cutting any non-local scalpers out of her tour unless they're willing to show up at the venue to pick tickets up for the people they sell them to.

Miley Cysru

TicketMaster has announced that they will only be selling "Paperless Tickets" to Miley Cyrus tour. These are only available to pickup at the entrance by the credit card holder that shows their picture ID. This is another attempt by TicketMaster to exclude other ticket brokers from obtaining tickets. When the LiveNation/TicketMaster merger goes through we are all in for more of this kind of deal. I also predict that service charges will go up to cover expenses like the "Paperless Tickets."

How is this scalping?

I don't understand the headline - how is this "scalping"?

It's the original artists who are selling a certain bunch of tickets at a higher price. This is no different than just pricing the tickets near the front the stage higher.

True scalpers will go and buy up the $300 ticket packages and re-sell them for $450 and make a $150 profit. I don't see anything here that prevents a smart scalper from doing that. But to say that the artist is "scalping" is ridiculous - by that token, EVERY ARTIST IS "SCALPING" THEIR OWN SHOES FROM DAY 1.

It is scalping because...

It creates the illusion of "fair access" when there is no real "fair access".

The entire concept of "scalping" comes from the myth that ticket brokers swoop in and buy up all the good seats leaving none for anyone else. Well, now, the artist herself has taken away all the good seats, leaving none for anyone else.

HOW IS THIS SCALPING? RE:

YOU JUST ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION MORON!

I agree

I agree... I don't understand this article at all.

The definition of scalping is "to buy and sell so as to small quick profits" or "to resell at greatly increased prices."

Although you might not like the price of these tickets, it's not scalping. They're going on sale for the first time by the artist herself. She's just selling her product for what she thinks she can get. That's not scalping... that's just capitalism at its best and is no crime. Consumers may not have a lot of choice but they do have a large voting voice here. Don't like the price? Don't buy them. If no one buys them, you'll see them onsale next week at half the price.

I'm not saying I think the ticketing industry is all straight forward and fair, but this article is implying some sort of illegal or deviant activity that simply isn't backed up by any fact. It just sounds like an ill-informed editorial rant.

scalping

It's amazing that when someone takes the artist point of view brokers are scalping but when artists mark up the tickets they are not.

I don't think you're getting the point

Scalping means a middle man(i.e. broker) is buying the tickets at one price from the original source and then reselling them to someone else(legally or illegally) to make a profit.

Cyrus is selling her tickets directly to the public for the first time at a price she is setting for her product. Her tickets may be over priced in your opinion - but it's not scalping.

Perhaps when you're talking about "scalping" what you really mean to say is "ripping people off." Both primary sellers and brokers have the ability to do that. What constitutes a "rip off" I'll leave to others to decide.

My point is: I'd feel much better with this article if it were titled "Cyrus sells tickets at a hugely marked up premium price" or "Ticketbuyers feeling Cyrus is ripping them off." The problem with this article is that its implying that she's "scalping." How can she be scalping? She's the one creating the product and giving it the original price. You can't be the "middle man" if you're the first one in line.

So... I go back to my original statement. Don't like the price? Don't buy the ticket.

"Cyrus is selling her tickets directly to the public ... "

"... at a price she is setting for her product"???

She is neither doing the selling nor setting the price.

Ticketmaster is doing the selling; the price is one agreed upon by her agent, the promoter, TM, and the venues.

This is merely a variation on the old practice of "icing," as begun decades ago by box office staff, dressed up in the quise of a "value added" package.

TM and the venue do not have

TM and the venue do not have any input into the price of the tickets nor the premium packages. Those are set by the promoter and artist.

what the hell are you all

what the hell are you all complaining about? These are Value Added Packages - if you don't like the value - don't buy them. And since when do a bunch of brokers have problems with brokering anyway. The effing hypocrisy is so think it is suffocating. I know you are fighting to save your asses - but at least be upfront about it. Whiners.

suffocating

Dude, I don't have a dime invested in this show, and I just got back from tubing trip full of extra curricular activities thanks to the constitution in question here. This is called sharing good values while reading what yes, seems to be brokers bickering. However, if these are all brokers, apparently there is one that works for ticketmaster..
farewell!!

Yes, Brokers are worried

All ticket resellers are obviously concerned and the general public should be concerned too. The Greed that has taken over the ticketing (sports, concerts, etc) industry is at a new level never seen before. So at what point will the government step in and take over and make new laws to keep the promoters and sports teams from scalping there own tickets. If the business keeps going the way it is then we resellers will be out of a job and the consumers will be at the mercy of the sports Teams/Promoters.

Yes, brokers are scared

All ticket resellers are obviously concerned and the general public should be concerned too. The Greed that has taken over the ticketing (sports, concerts, etc) industry is at a new level never seen before. So at what point will the govenment step in and take over and make new laws to keep the promoters and sports teams from scalping there own tickets. If the business keeps going the way it is then we resellers will be out of a job and the consumers will be at the mercy of the Teams/Promoters.

What "Added Value"

Some trinkets & perhaps a non-existent parking space?

If you had a brain you'd

If you had a brain you'd know the answer. You think prices will be better for consumers if TM/LN merge and they control 100% the entire availability of tickets available to the public. Transparency my a**.
Paperless isn't about putting tickets in the hands of fans. It's about controlling supply of tickets in the market place. Control the supply and you can charge more. Oh and TM's great idea..Buy paperless tickets and can't attend? Tough says TM. You purchase a ticket but only you can sit in it and if you die, are sick in the hospital, have a family emergency, have an out of town trip come up and can't attend you have no right to even give the tickets away. TM effectively is stating they reserve the right to decide who can sit in seats YOU PURCHASED!! Meanwhile TM sells you seats at 4 times face and won't even tell you where the seats.
You don't care about brokers? Fine, but if you think you'll be better off with TM/LN controlling virtually 100% of the tickets sold in this country you're a bigger fool than I already think you are.
At least brokers follow supply and demand. You think you're gonna be saving money when the only place you can buy a ticket in the United States is via is Ticketmaster/LN.
Take away all the competition and make people have to buy from us. Is gas cheaper in a town with only 1 station. Is food cheaper in a town with only 1 store? Is there anywhere in the country which operates under the priciple that with no competition prices go down? If you know of such a place you better move there if TM/Ln merge cause that's the only place in the world where you'll find a consumer benifit to this merger.

Is that you Don? Yes, it is

Is that you Don?

Yes, it is a complicated situation, but your rants don't find that truth.

The fact is (as you well know) ticket brokers have made a killing over the past four since that the government found out it could raise some tax revenue by legalizing scalping. What they didn't realize is the absurd growth of ticket resellers would actually limit the availability of primary tickets to consumers as brokers bought and then sold at a handsome mark up.

I can almost stomach paying a broker's fee when signing a lease for an apartment because they can sometimes add value in helping me find a good place. However, ticket brokers step in between me and the website where I'm "waiting in line" to buy and resell to me at a higher price? There's no value add there---it's an unfair cash grab.

Question: Why should Don

Question:

Why should Don Vaccaro profit from Miley Cyrus tickets?

I think Don should shut his freakin' pie-hole and find a more honest living than by making concertgoers pay more $$$ for shows and show the artist none of the upside. The fact that he is crying foul about this is pathetic...I just received a blast email about this from TicketNews and am disgusted by TicketNews' ugly, self-serving, hypocritical drivel spewed on the matter.

Speaking of drivel, ...

unless you are TOTALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT, you earn your keep by profitting from the efforts of others.

Hypocritical? Yes, you are.

Amen.

Amen.

Irving azoff is the worlds

Irving azoff is the worlds biggest spin doctor, he has every person in america believing they are protecting the public, yet he and his big machine known as ticketmaster are bullshitting everyone who wants to listen. He has set loose the "I LOVE ALL ACESS" bandwagon to every kids home if they want good seats because they held back the best seats for Azoff and his band of cronies to cut up. The only person who is going to make money on this tour is irving azoff and ticketmaster and randy philips who is the bag man for AEG. long live the worlds greatest and newest monoploy in the USA, paperless tickets. Come clean you short shit Azoff and tell the public just what your doing...

I totally agree..

What nobody has mentioned HERE is what they intend to do for those who's guests do not make it. Nobody mentioned that the consumer loses his fair chance to redeem money spent on a no show, and the icing? tickets are non-refundable. What are people going to do when Wendy can't make it and the consumer loses his 250 dollar ticketmaster ticket because it was never given to him in the first place? His chance of redeeming one cent has already been taken and regarded as competition to ticketmaster. That pretty much make the patrons as good as enemies now. NO REFUNDS, NO TICKET WITHOUT GUEST, NO CHANCE, YOU LOSE 250.00 PER PERSON, AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT WE'LL HAVE SGT. STADENKO ESCORT YOU FROM THE PROPERTY. AND REMEMBER, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO ENJOY YOURSELF WITHOUT FEELING LIKE YOU JUST GOT RIPPED! LOL!! OH, AND UH, "GOOD LUCK WITH THE ECONOMY!", "WE'LL MAKE SURE YOUR 250.00 IS SPENT RESPONSIBLY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CORPORATION W/LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON"

Miley Cyrus scalping

The best thing to do may be just to post this information on as many Miley Cyrus sites and media sites as possible, that may have more effect than anything else in a short amount of time.

Crowd Free Merchandise Shopping

What a treat, after spending 300 on ticket not knowing the exact location , they are going to clear the path to buy more Miley Cyrus swag, quite the VIP experience

WE NEED TO SUE TICKETMASTER!

WE NEED TO SUE TICKETMASTER! THEY ARE A MONOPOLY! THIS IS SUCH BS!

until it is known

an artist scalping their own tickets is like finding out that the matre d at your favorite tough to get into restaurant was also the owner of the restaurant, once people see that the recording artist are playing them for fools they will rebel against this pricing scheme

its one thing to pay to get into a place its another to find out the guy you are paying is the guy that did not let you in at regular price ...you can only screw the public for so long ...and thats the reason no one buys tickets from ticketsnow.com they think its rigged by the ticketmaster ownership

artists scalping

I don't care if the artist sells their own tickets. God bless them. But this is not them acting simply or alone. This is a complete misrepresentation to artists everywhere. I'm sure Miley didn't think, "Well, let's not allow people to transfer tickets, and if their seats go empty, at least we have the cash!". Or "Let's charge more than the average american can afford for these tickets", "And by the way, isn't the constitution of the USA a joke?". Surely she didn't intend to begin a new corporate paradigm in the United States whereby the average patron is treated like a competitor. These artist are being manhandled by another corporate monster, which is also quite a humbling experience for an artist in my experience. Isn't it a sad day when the greatest voices of america become blanketed w/corporate greed? While I agree that we, in America most likely do have the most whiners, I notice it's usually by the wealthy who can't appreciate a full days work and looks at the hard workers of america as undesirables. I also recognize that one company making attempts to put well over 5,000 more jobs out of existence by way of a monopoly right now isn't hopeful for the idea life in the pursuit of happiness, and curses the patrons with more non-negotiable, voice prompted customer. I would much rather pay my money to someone who can appreciate it, while eliminating the possibility of one more desperate, poverty stricken, & gun-toting child from robbing another as a result of corporate greed in this country. This topic goes a lot deeper than a couple of you guys out there who tend to get your feelings hurt more often than not. We as Americans have a real bad habit of allowing our freedoms to be taken away by associating legislation w/our personal preferences. The problem with that is that after legislation, it ceases to be a preference at all. Here's a thought.., "how many preferences do cattle have?" "EXACTLY MY POINT". It's fine for the sake of conversation, but when you run out of options, you take what you are fed and that's it. If someone doesn't want me to make money, that is unfortunate. To enforce by law is against the constitution of the United States which is by far more important than your personal opinions ever!! One more thing.. If these companies don't respect the constitution of the United States, do you think they respect you as a patron? The only bad job in America is one that takes away another's. I'd rather take my chances with a live American citizen. Besides, when brokers lose money on shows, the price gets lower for the patron, and they don't mind giving good advice about your event experience (parking, sound quality, etc.)

Don't Buy Them Then

Don't buy the tix then if you don't like the price or vendor. Its as simple as that.

Brokers and TND affiliates:

Brokers and TND affiliates: You are the one getting screwed. If the merger between Live Nation and Ticketmaster succeeds, then you might as well find another career. I would suggest calling your local congressman or suing (class action) Ticketmaster for unfair competition. Ticketmaster would love to you guys out of business. They have the secondary market (indirectly and directly). i.e TicketsNow, Ticketmaster Exchange and VIP ticket experience.

I find it ironic that

I find it ironic that Ticketmaster is lobbying for transparency for the rest of the ticket industry, but yet are operating this tour under the appearance of being 'fan friendly' but really just went paperless to reduce the number of competitors to this VIP package that they face on the secondary market.

That being said, I have no problem with artists selling their own tickets at a premium. I DO have a problem when Ticketmaster helps facilitate artists in doing this, and then when the public finds out and is outraged, blaming the secondary market for it.

I have been saying this all along

I find it funny that everyone seems so suprised. I have seen this coming since the rumors started about an entirely paperless tour. By doing a paperless tour, they are essentially cornering the secondary market, minus a few hundred sales using the "walk you in" technique, the inside camp has sole control over the secondary market. Personally I hope it blows up in their faces!

Hope this makes headlines all over...

What a joke! Coming out and saying you are all "for the fans" and all that BS, only to scalp your own tickets and make sure that you don't have any competition by making the whole thing paperless! Miley and TM don't give a s**t about their fans this whole "paperless" scheme was just so that brokers would not be able to compete and so that they could charge whatever they wanted to for the best seats to the shows. This also will significantly limit the actual number of regular priced tickets available to fans, and further decreasing that pool will just further limit what will be available on the secondary market.. Fans will have to either get lucky in the onsale (not likely) go straight to buying these "VIP packages" or pay artificially inflated prices on what's left on the secondary market.

TM and Miley should get a standing ovation for this one!!

hi umm... the jonas brothers

hi umm... the jonas brothers and anyother BIG celb does that if you had a life you would know she doest care but not for ppl like you who bitch at her

-a person who got 5 th row tickets

Yes they should. The

Yes they should. The "secondary ticket market" has been STEALING from artists, their designated ticketing agents, andn arguably, from consumers for years now. Ticketmaster and Miley are by no means at fault. Given the demand for tickets, they ought to profit from more dynamic pricing...NOT classless, base, hypocritical ticketbrokers. Oh, and Don Vaccaro should be careful about biting the hands that feed him...pretty soon Congress and the consumers are going to see who is really screwing who in the ticketing business and it is NOT the artist or their minions...it's those who game the ticket sales and then mark up the prices 5x.

Don Vaccaro:

I'd like to see the total number of Hannah Montana tickets sold by TicketNetwork and the average price from last year's concert tour. I'd venture to bet that you made a nice tidy profit and not one cent of that profit went to Miley Cyrus.

Stealing from artists, etal.?

If you sell me something, and I then resell it, what has been stolen from you?

By your reasoning, if I resell it at a loss, you owe me a partial refund to cover my loss! And, if I fail to resell it, you owe me afull refund!!!

You cannot lay claim to the gain arising from any transaction unless you also accept the risk of sharing in any resulting loss.

The faulty logic here is

The faulty logic here is that you assume a 12 year old girl to be interested in profit when she just wants to see the show. She's not steeped in the profit motive yet.

She doesn't want to sell the ticket to you. She wants to go to the show. That's why she wanted to buy the freaking ticket.

On the other hand, YOU bought the ticket with the intention of marking up the price before trying to sell it to that now teary-eyed 12 year old girl who can't afford the mark up price.

How about all the teary-eyed

How about all the teary-eyed girls who can't even afford the original price of a regular ticket, let alone the $295 "value"? All these yuppies weeping and gnashing their capped teeth because they have to pay $500 for a good Hannah Montana ticket, and they don't give a rat's azz about the millions of children who can't afford to go see a movie.

And a concert ticket is a luxury item--if you can't afford it, that's life. If your kid cries because she can't afford to go to Hawaii for school vacation, do you rail against the travel & tourism industry?

Finally, these concerts are SOLD OUT every time, and there are a set number of seats available. So regardless of the price, the same number of kids are going to be disappointed either way.

If I own something and I want to sell it, then I get to decide how much I want to be paid for it. Any potential buyers get to decide whether or not they want to pay that much. If they don't, they don't.
Is this really that difficult for people to understand?

Actually, the logical faults are yours

I made NO ASSUMPTION re. your daughter selling me anything; rather, I used the editorial "you."

Furthermore, YOU ASSUMED that I bought the ticket for the express purpose of reselling it, which, of course, is not necessarily true.

Furthermore, you've evaded the issue as to "how" anything is being "stolen" from the artist, etal..

Also, if your 12 year old

Also, if your 12 year old future business guru bought 4 tickets and 2 of her friends were grounded for not wearing their retainers what do you do? If a ticket you bought is worth 10 times what you or your daughter paid for it, will you list it on ebay or call a broker and only want your cost back and nothing more? It is not about greed at all. It is a dumbed down version of the stock market where companies(artists) who have a hot product(tickets) sell for a higher price than companies(artists)who are still making widgets and no one cares about. My 75 year old grandpa told the truth when he said that this country has turned into a bunch of whining babies with a sense of entitlement. Take this miley rule and try to apply it as a blanket to the whole ticket industry, it just doen't make sense.

It's a very subjective

It's a very subjective argument here. You are assuming that I bought the ticket when it went on sale to sell it for profit. People call me ALL THE TIME when they bought extras and need to get rid of them since someone bailed. Besides, in what state can a 12 year old girl get a credit card?

baseless argument

This argument is going nowhere because it is obvious that someone is having personal feelings about something or someone else. He should take those feeling to who ever that individual was and work it out. That's like slapping Tracy 'cause Dick was being a jerk. If someone is unwilling to recognize the importance of freedom and all it entails to be a free society, that's their problem. Don't even argue with a guy whom in his head is living in the USSR. That is the bottom line, "Where are you going to go, when corporate greed has denied the general public a shot at a fair market". It is a socialist mind that suggests the people have no fair shot in any market period. If this guy hates free-markets, then I suggest he not reproduce unless he prefers enslavement. Or maybe he does. Accusing an honest business man who's putting food on his family's table of stealing, and is inclined to autocratic governments? I'll bet that this guy has never sat in the driver's seat in his life, & if he ever had a taste at power he would turn into a scrooge in no time. Remember, a broker can't be successful unless he treats his patrons fairly. It just doesn't work any other way. This guy is just another soul that doesn't know who to blame for his personal misery..

Give me a break

I would like to ask you a very simple question. IF brokers are removed from the equation, does that automatically mean the mom who camps her kid in front of the Disney Channel to become obsessed with Miley and the Jonas Brothers have any better of a chance to get tickets? Without brokers you will soon realize that if you get shut out you will have to turn to who for your tickets? Someone who can be held accountable for what they sell? Will it then be ok to sell tickets on ebay and craigslist so long as the person is not a "broker"? Poor little Miley is a mental midget working for a company who sells sex to kids packaged with a pretty bow so the dumb asses in middle America miss its subtle messages. This is a very slippery slope we walk here, as for now the flag is red, white and blue. If we start telling people what they cannot do in a free market society then it my just turn solid Red. You are the same guy who has no problem with Wal-Mart hiring Chinese labor slaves at 10 dollars a year to make their products you consume every day, packaged with a smiling yellow mascot and 50 cents cheaper than elsewhere. I don't agree with Wal-Mart, but in a free market there is no choice but to accept it and shop elsewhere. Show me how people are getting harmed by what a broker does and I will stop today and start using my degree to work in another field.

How about you define for me

How about you define for me the benefits ticket brokers provide to interested consumers?

I suggest you "start using you degree."

Perhaps you'll accept the studied results of an economist?
By the way. Just because YOU

By the way. Just because YOU have your panties in a bunch does not mean you are the moral mouthpiece for people who like to attend events in good seats. Might I suggest a T1 line, maybe a faster ISP? Just some thoughts.

The benefits

Here are a couple examples. A guy who has no time or abilty to get Red Wings tickets for the Stanley Cup Finals has a HUGE, multi million dollar client who he has to get in the game in order to seal the deal calls me the day before a game. I get him the seats at a fair mark up and we are all happy. I have a satisfied client, his business continues with his client, and no one is bitching about what something costs. Another..... A guy has a teenage daughter who is in love with Green Day. She waited out for tickets while he tried online. Neither had much of an option since it was a small club they wanted to go to. He called me, I found him the seats at a better deal than ebay, and far more trustworthy than craigslist. He made his daughter very happy and he was not hassled by being another number in line.

So let me ask you if yur kid wants to go see Miley Cyrus this time around, and since there are NO brokers and NO tickets to be found what will the solution be? Where will you turn if you sealing a deal depends on getting those seats? There are no options for you now. Whatever happened to live and let live? There are no laws being broken here. If an artist is selling them unfairly out of the back door to brokers that is one thing, but if a broker is taking the same chance as you then I fail to see the issue here. You still haven't said a peep about what Wal-Mart does. They certainly don't make the product "in house". What about a guy who spends 3 hours waiting in a line to get an autograph for 5 bucks, then sells it for 50? He certainly didn't sign the picture yet he is making a profit off of it. Really, there is no arguement to be made in this country for not allowing brokers to exist.... Unless we elect Castro, Stalin, Jeb Bush or Kim Jong Il. Getting rid of us does nothing to help your chances of getting Miley Cyrus tickets.

Month of January 2010

  Seller Score
1     Ticketmaster.com 34.17
2 StubHub.com 10.86
3 TicketCity.com 2.79
4 TicketsNow.com 2.65
5 TicketLiquidator.com 2.44
6 Telecharge.com 2.00
7 LiveNation.com 1.81
8 Wantickets.com 1.21
9 GoTickets.com 1.14
10 ABCTickets.com 1.07
11 TicketWeb.com 1.00
12 TicketNetwork.com 0.90
13 Vividseats.com 0.88
14 EventTicketsCenter.com 0.88
15 ETix.com 0.85
16 TickCo.com 0.78
17 BrownPaperTickets.com 0.76
18 Tix.com 0.76
19 RazorGator.com 0.75
20 Tickets.com 0.74

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