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Sen. Schumer's ticket resale delay bill begs questions and has brokers outraged
New York Sen. Charles Schumer's proposed legislation to impose a two-day waiting period on brokers before they can buy and resell tickets has understandably caused an uproar among ticket brokers.
Schumer's proposal, which also calls for brokers to register with the Federal Trade Commission, is still in its infancy, but what the broker community is saying is that the plan penalizes them while not fully addressing some legitimate concerns over transparency and the need to create a more even playing field for selling tickets.
"It's sad to see that because Ticketmaster and TicketsNow mishandled an on sale [Springsteen shows], the entire industry has come under fire. We have somehow become the problem when just six months ago we were their partners. Ticketmaster has decided to blame the brokers as a way to achieve their merger, and eliminate competition while they do it," said broker Mark Kuta, owner of Naperville, IL-based Ticket America.
Schumer had been a vocal critic of the planned merger between Ticketmaster and Live Nation, but he worked with Ticketmaster on his proposed legislation to the exclusion of brokers. Ticketmaster Entertainment CEO Irving Azoff supports the proposal and has blasted the secondary ticket market in recent weeks, even suggesting that he would consider selling the company's TicketsNow ticket resale subsidiary.
But, Azoff has not said what Ticketmaster might do with its TicketExchange resale site. "Staggering the resale process to commence 48 hours after an onsale is a very important step in reforming the process and bringing transparency to the onsale process," he said in a statement.
“Buying concert tickets has become like taking a trip back to the Wild West – anything goes,” Schumer said in a statement this week. “When the scalping market destroys initial ticket sales and all tickets sold at face value are hoarded by resellers before New Yorkers have a chance to buy them, any attempt to keep prices down by the sellers and artists is made impossible. The bottom line is we need to create a fair system where fans get first crack at good seats at a reasonable price.”
"We look forward to reviewing the proposed legislation and working with Senator Schumer and other legislators on fan friendly legislation," Sean Pate, spokesperson for StubHub, told TicketNews. "StubHub and eBay focus on the fans first by providing fair and equitable access to event tickets, which is the very platform StubHub was founded upon."
Pate added that he hopes Ticketmaster's support of Schumer's proposal will extend beyond the secondary market and also shine a light squarely on the primary ticket market. Brokers and others have long cried foul for the way Ticketmaster has hidden behind promoters and artists and not disclosed how many tickets are initially made available when tickets go on sale. Promoters and artists generally set those limits, but they routinely shy away from disclosing the exact amounts.
As it currently stands, Schumer's proposed legislation does not address that issue, instead proposing to add rules prohibiting "prelisting," or speculative listing, of tickets by brokers before they are available.
“Fans want full transparency about how tickets are sold and distributed, and StubHub supports efforts to provide greater transparency. We hope Ticketmaster's public support for this bill will include a commitment to promote transparency in the initial sale of tickets," Pate said. "That would include providing information about how many tickets are being made available to the general public and where other tickets are being distributed."
Gary Adler, legal counsel for the National Association of Ticket Brokers (NATB), said Sen. Schumer's proposal "appears to give Ticketmaster a two-day monopoly" on ticket sales, and it will hurt consumers in the long run. Adler and NATB President Tom Patania, a broker and owner of Select a Ticket, also hope to work with Schumer and his staff on the issue.
"There are lots of places that sell subscriptions, which are contracts for tickets. Why can't brokers sell those tickets? Why can't consumers buy those tickets in advance?" Adler asked. "Registration is not necessarily a bad thing, but the NATB has had an excellent consumer protection policy in place for some time that works well. Our brokers sell experiences, and if they don't make sure that those experiences are good ones for consumers, they won't be in business very long."
Kuta believes that limiting brokers from buying tickets from the primary market for a couple of days "would have and extremely negative effect" and possibly put brokers out of business.
"If brokers can't purchase tickets from the primary market, whether it be from Ticketmaster or from individuals sellers, then Ticketmaster would be able to sell the tickets that they hold back on their TicketExchange and ask whatever price they want for them, in a sense eliminating competition," Kuta said.
Part of what the Schumer proposal does not appear to take into account, Kuta added, is that brokers are like any other retailer that facilitates transactions in the marketplace. It's not as if there's a federal law forcing Walmart to wait until two days after Target begins selling a particular product.
"We purchase tickets from individuals and resell them to other individuals. This is simply supply and demand," Kuta said. "Take a look at the upcoming Bruce Springsteen show at the Los Angles Sports Arena. Most of the tickets are going for half of the face value if you search the Internet. Is Ticketmaster willing to end all of its ticket auctions and platinum and premier seating options that they have doing for quite some time? There have been many shows in the past where most of the good seats have been held back and placed on the Ticketmaster TicketExchange for higher prices. Why is it that the public never knows how many tickets are for sale for each show? Of course the demand for tickets will go up if only half or two-thirds of the tickets are released for a show."
(The image accompanying this story is from New York Newsday)





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Comments represent the opinions of users and do not necessarily reflect the views of TicketNews.Make the resale of tickets by more than $5 over face value - any venue, any location, any technology, by any parties - punishable by a $1,000 fine per ticket. Make this a FEDERAL law. Include in the law a clause that holds web-hosting service equally guilty for allowing the listing of ticket resales. Enforce the law mercilessly. BRING BACK TICKET PRICING AND SALES TO SUPPORT THE ARTISTS AND THEIR AUDIENCES, not the rotten scalpers.
that Irv Azoff, and his crony, Howard Kauffman, have "scalped" quite a few tickets in their day. I have heard the poison dwarf has benefitted quite handsomely on some deals with the secondary market. It might just be innuendo, but Im sure inquiring minds would love to know. Bite the hand that feeds you when it is convenient.
You all asked for it.
That is all.
The best question is what can we do to stop this?
KEPP YOUR NOSE OUT OF OUR BUSINESS SHUMER
Where is the source for brokers waiting 2 days to BUY tickets? Other than this posting and the other ticketnews one from a couple of days ago, I have not found anything else mentioning it. All other sources I read say brokers must wait 2 days to LIST - nothing about buying.
Any links?
To ensure fans get first crack at tickets for major concerts and sporting events, Schumer today announced he will introduce new legislation in the Senate that will impose a two-day waiting period from when tickets go on sale via an authorized sales channel before a ticket reseller can buy those tickets to put on the secondary market..................Finally, for enforcement purposes, the bill will require that all paper and e-tickets contain on their face the date and time of sale. Any falsification of this information will also violate the law.
http://schumer.senate.gov/new_website/record.cfm?id=311221&
allow consumers to return tickets they purchase just like any other item they purchase till that time ,,,Charles Schumer is protecting ticketmaster.com
From Schumer's website:
"To ensure fans get first crack at tickets for major concerts and sporting events, Schumer today announced he will introduce new legislation in the Senate that will impose a two-day waiting period from when tickets go on sale via an authorized sales channel before a ticket reseller can buy those tickets to put on the secondary market. The bill will not apply to season ticket holders for entertainment events or purchasers of a package of tickets for multiple events that are part of the same entertainment series. A secondary seller can purchase those tickets once they are listed for sale by the ticket holder subject to and in accordance with state and local laws and regulations."
So "resellers" can't purchase them for two business days. That's pretty ridiculous. What defines a 'reseller'? Anyone who re-sells tickets? What about Joe Fan who buys tickets on day one and then later re-sells them for any reason? He'd technically be breaking the law. At LEAST they had the good sense to exempt season ticket holders from this nonsense. The whole problem with this crap is because of concerts, not sporting events, and should be only limited to concerts.
Wow... This proposed legislation eliminates competition. Essentially, Ticketmaster/Live Nation monopolizes the ticket market for two days. This is unjust.
what should be split up / sold is ticketmaster into three.
1) ticketmaster
2) ticketmaster exchange
3) ticketsnow
ps - no merger with livenation.
It is as plain as day that TM partners with the artists, promoters, venues, etc to hold back seats. I cannot believe people are still questioning this. Look at the on sales for Billy Joel/Elton John and Britney Spears. How did 600+ listings show up on TicketExchange 1 minute after they went on sale via Ticketmaster for nearly every venue? It's not even humanly possible to purchase tickets, download the TicketFast tickets, enter the bar code, select a price, and list the tickets for sale one minute after they went on sale. There were seats located all over the venue for sale.. Primos, cheap seats, everything... This doesn't even include all the shady crap that goes on in venues like Madison Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall. The same thing happens there.
The most obvious and telling sign was that if you did try to list your tickets for sale on TicketExchange, there were many instances where Ticketmaster blocked you from doing so and wouldn't let you list against the hundreds of held back tickets already for sale. I mean they weren't even trying to hide their practices because all it takes is someone with half a brain to figure out the seats for sale weren't by brokers or other ticket resellers. Then, during the Springsteen fiasco, Ticketmaster took down all of the listings for Britney Spears and Elton John/Billy Joel. Everyone received an email stating their listings would be taken down, and they did it for no other reason than to cover their asses before anyone could point out what was going on.
There were so many later released tickets for Britney Spears, it was ridiculous. They were all the unsold tickets being held back for sale on TicketExchange.
This legislation is awful and must be stopped, whatever the language might be. But that is my question here. What is the language? Are they planning to stop brokers from selling for two days or are they planning to stop us from buying for two days? The former is unacceptable. But the later is down right fascist in nature.
seems to be in bed with Azoff despite their staged public disagreement.
This legislation is a joke. How did this proposed merger become focused so intensely on the secondary when it's the primary that will become completely dominated by TM/LN? Azoff is laughing himself to sleep at night! He gets his merger and delivers a huge blow to his primary competitors in the secondary space.
Yes, Schumer seems to be in bed with Azoff in this case. They probably fell in love with each other.
Well it seems like the simple answer will to make sure you're not an "official" ticket broker. Because what will happen is that "individuals" will simply buy up tickets during the first two days, and then gobs of those tickets will end up on eBay and everywhere else. Because whose army is going to police any of this anyway? Who is going to keep track of exactly what seats were sold in the first two days and which ones weren't?
Or maybe the whole business will just be pushed further underground. Pot is illegal but my teenage daughter knows a half dozen kids that can score a bag before you can say "marijahoochie."
As a fan, I appreciate Schumer's intent. But scalping tickets is the second oldest profession in the world, and ultimately Schumer is just playing whack a mole.
If this law passes and Ticketmaster receives approval to merge with LiveNation, then they will become the largest monopoly ever created (by the DOJ and congress). Consumers will not benefit; only the shareholders of the newly merged company.